[Putin and Larry King. Putin's interview.] last week there were two political events that have marked Russia's future and have given us, to some extent, to understand what is happening in the political life of Russia and what the mood prevails. You've probably already realized that the first event is the Message of the President of the Russian Federation, and the second interview with Vladimir Putin, U.S. journalist - Larry King Live.
Today I'll talk to the account of the second event since the first volume-and time-consuming. I promise to write soon about it. I think the more interesting and more effective if I give the text of an interview with my commentary (MC).
Vladimir Putin: Good evening. We have evening, you have the morning. Good morning, Larry. I am very pleased to see you again. I remember our first meeting, I remember our interview.
L. King: Mr Prime Minister, thank you You that you came from. Let's start immediately. You probably will again run for president in 2012? You think to do this?
Vladimir Putin: We working closely with President Medvedev. And for a long time ago decided that we will take a coordinated decision on the elections in 2012 for the Russian people.
L. King: That is your answer: "Maybe."
Vladimir Putin: see. Until the election is still long enough. They should have held in April 2012. I repeat once again: we will consult and take a decision based on economic, social and political situation in the country.
L. King: well. Then move on to current issues.
Vladimir Putin: Please.
L. King: What do you think the release of a group of military and political WikiLeaks correspondence, they leak?
Vladimir Putin: Some experts believe that WikiLeaks someone special "inflate." "Inflates" the credibility of this site, then to use it in some of their political purposes. This is one of the options, and it is the opinion of experts, and we also covered. I think if not, then it suggests that the diplomacy needed to closely monitor their documents. Such leaks visited before, and in the past times. There is no catastrophe, I do not see this.
MK: We know that every word is a person of such level as Vladimir Putin, is of paramount importance. Words and expressions should be chosen with caution, especially when you give interviews to journalists № 1 of the country that considers you and your country enemy number 1.
What Putin said on WikiLeaks? He begins to explain his point of view, referring to some experts. I think it better policy experts in Russia need a very long search. So he says what he thinks he only does so diplomatically, so that later calls were not. So, in his opinion, this project specifically "inflated". That is its purpose has not yet been reached. His task is not implemented. And who doubts the awareness of Russian Prime Minister? I think that none ... On his view about the WikiLeaks-a, which coincides with the views of Putin, I wrote in the article WikiLeaks - is a project against geopolitical rivals the USA!
MK: We know that every word is a person of such level as Vladimir Putin, is of paramount importance. Words and expressions should be chosen with caution, especially when you give interviews to journalists № 1 of the country that considers you and your country enemy number 1.
What Putin said on WikiLeaks? He begins to explain his point of view, referring to some experts. I think it better policy experts in Russia need a very long search. So he says what he thinks he only does so diplomatically, so that later calls were not. So, in his opinion, this project specifically "inflated". That is its purpose has not yet been reached. His task is not implemented. And who doubts the awareness of Russian Prime Minister? I think that none ... On his view about the WikiLeaks-a, which coincides with the views of Putin, I wrote in the article WikiLeaks - is a project against geopolitical rivals the USA!
L. King: With regard to the U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates that Russian democracy has disappeared, and that the Government controlled security services. What is your response to the American Secretary of Defense for its such a statement?
Vladimir Putin: I am familiar with Mr. Gates met with him several times. It seems to me that this is a very nice person and a good specialist. But as you know, Mr. Gates was one of the leaders of the Central Intelligence of the United States of America, and today he is the minister of defense. If this is the best in the U.S. expert on democracy, then I congratulate you.
MK: That's one of the political features that I like in Putin. He knows how to respond to rudeness disguised in the same bite, after which boor he regrets his behavior.
L. King: That is, it is not right when he says that your country is controlled by the secret services of security?
L. King: That is, it is not right when he says that your country is controlled by the secret services of security?
Vladimir Putin: He is deeply mistaken. Our country is controlled by the people of the Russian Federation through the legally elected organs of power and control: through its representative - the Parliament - and in the executive - the President and Government of the Russian Federation.
As for democracy, it is our long-standing dispute with our American colleagues. I recall that twice in the history of the United States have been instances when a presidential candidate who then became President of the United States, voted in greater number of electors, which stood for a smaller number of voters. Where is democracy?
And when we say to our American colleagues that there are systemic problems in this area, we hear: "You do not climb for us. We have so happens, so be it." We do not climb, but I want our colleagues and advise: and you do not climb for us. This is a sovereign choice of the Russian people. The Russian people made a clear choice toward democracy in the early 90's. And this way does not turn back. This one should not doubt. In that Russia itself has an interest. And we will certainly go on this path.
The question raised, Mr. Gates in the diplomatic correspondence, is associated with an obvious desire to have some pressure on its allies in addressing specific issues. Such issues arise a lot. We must press on Russia, because it not democratic, we must then do something, because there is no democracy. And we've heard this a thousand times. We have already stopped paying attention to it. But it is still used as an instrument of foreign policy of the United States. I think this is the wrong approach in building relations with the Russian Federation.
MK: "I want to remind you that twice in the history of the United States have been instances when a presidential candidate, who then became President of the United States, voted in greater number of electors behind which stood a smaller number of voters. Where is democracy? "-One who has not studied the characteristics of national elections, the U.S., I advise to take it as soon as possible. And you will see who is "our teacher" to "democracy." This is when fizruk before each class drank a glass of vodka, smokes a pack of cigarettes, sniffing heroin, and then begins to teach his colleagues a healthy lifestyle.
"We do not climb, but I want our colleagues and advise: and you do not climb for us. This is the sovereign choice Russian people. "- I think here, even Alexeeva with Nemtsov would applaud ...
MK: "I want to remind you that twice in the history of the United States have been instances when a presidential candidate, who then became President of the United States, voted in greater number of electors behind which stood a smaller number of voters. Where is democracy? "-One who has not studied the characteristics of national elections, the U.S., I advise to take it as soon as possible. And you will see who is "our teacher" to "democracy." This is when fizruk before each class drank a glass of vodka, smokes a pack of cigarettes, sniffing heroin, and then begins to teach his colleagues a healthy lifestyle.
"We do not climb, but I want our colleagues and advise: and you do not climb for us. This is the sovereign choice Russian people. "- I think here, even Alexeeva with Nemtsov would applaud ...
L. King: As you describe the relationship between you and the President Medvedev? Some people say, how do you know that he - Robin, and you - Batman, if we use to describe American heroes. Or actually, if it is correct to say, you - Batman, and he - Robin.
Vladimir Putin: Yes, you know, when we were with Mr Medvedev decided the question of how we build our relationships, how we build a campaign, election-presidential campaign in 2008, we were well aware that the very Many will try to split our common approaches to the construction of the Russian state and economic development. Because it is our interaction is a significant factor in internal politics of the country, but we, frankly, did not even know that this will be done with such impudence, unceremoniously and so shamelessly.
Statements of this kind, of course, are meant to insult one of us, hurt self-esteem, encourage to some steps which would have destroyed the productive interaction of governing the country. I must tell you that we have become accustomed to it. And I ask all those who take such attempts to calm down.
L. King: I hope that soon I will visit your country and meet with you personally. Last time we met in New York We were together in one studio, but now we communicate via satellite. How do you assess the situation on the Korean Peninsula? You said that there is tremendous danger, the tension of the conflict. Do you share these fears?
Vladimir Putin: Yes, the situation is urgent and very disturbing. We can not worry because that everything that happens happens in the immediate vicinity of our borders.
But we very much hope that good sense will prevail, emotions go the second plan and begin a dialogue. Without dialogue, it is impossible to reach agreement.
Together with partners, including the United States, working hard to resolve the North Korean problem associated with nuclear programs, to resolve the situation between the two parts of Korea, and at different stages of this work, she gave different results, but including a very impressive and positive. I very much hope that we will return to this trend positive work.
L. King: China has offered to hold talks with the six parties - the two Koreas, China, Russia, Japan and the United States. Do you support this idea?
Vladimir Putin: We have a foreign policy led by President and this issue should be addressed, above all, to him, but in general I think that Russia interested that the dialogue was continued.
MK: haha, once again gave a light slap-irony of the American people and pro-Western media in particular.
MK: haha, once again gave a light slap-irony of the American people and pro-Western media in particular.
L. King: Do you think that China should do more to resolve the situation, because he has a great influence on North Korea?
Vladimir Putin: This is the position of U.S. State Department. But, in principle, we should all do everything in our power to ensure that the situation came to a normal channel. In the PRC there is leverage, primarily economic, but more importantly, what we must remember - you need to respect to the interests of the Korean people, both the northern and southern parts of it.
need to be patient and to choose the right tone in dialogue and develop a unified position of all the six states that participate in this rather complex
negotiation process. Common approach - it is very important guarantee overall success.
MK: "This is the position of the U.S. State Department." We do not want to strain with China. We should be friends with him because, so far, our interests in more coincide. This phrase Putin said that, in our view, China has nothing to it you think it, something must, as we say all-only that he more influence, and that China could help us L. King: you share the concerns of other countries that Iran is moving toward becoming a nuclear Power. How to Russia on this?
Vladimir Putin: Iran's nuclear program is implemented for the past 20 years, and recently, in the past years, Iran has somehow shown a willingness to dialogue with the international community and the IAEA. Yes, we know that in the early stages of the program is issues and support the IAEA in the desire to get satisfactory answers.
You can not know that we are concerned about any attempts to spread, even every opportunity, the theoretical possibility of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. This applies to absolutely all states, including Iran. Together so we have no reason to suspect Iran is that it is seeking nuclear weapons. But we are working with all our partners, including the United States within the United Nations. And, as you know, so far we have been able to make coordinated decisions. Our position is open, and Iran knows it. We will continue to cooperate with all parties to this process until full settlement of this problem. I very much hope that this settlement will take place. And I think that is interested in this are not only neighbors of Iran, Israel, which fears a nuclear program, other participants this process, but Iran itself and the Iranian people.
And I do not see anything wrong here, I see nothing prejudicial to Iran, if it is possible open all its programs and meet the legitimate interest of the international specialized organizations - the IAEA in its work. I do not see anything wrong with but at the same time, I remain of the opinion that Iran has the right to pursue nuclear programs under the supervision of international organizations.
L. King: all concerned about the new agreement. Medvedev said that would be a new arms race if the NATO and Russia will not coordinate their positions on missile shield. Will there be another round of arms race, if the United States will not ratify this treaty?
Vladimir Putin: No, because speaking in today's Federal Assembly, President Medvedev has said only that we made a proposal about how we are all together working on the general problem of security could to divide between themselves the responsibility and the problem definitely solved by working together. But if our proposals will be given only negative responses and, moreover, near our borders will have an additional threat in the form of a new variant of the third site, that Russia simply has to be to ensure its security in different ways: to establish new strike systems against new threats that will be created near our borders, create new means of nuclear missile technology. It is not our choice, we do not want. And it's not a threat, we simply say that we are all waiting for, if We can not agree on a joint work. That's it. I repeat, we have this really does not like.
L. King: you say that this is not a threat. But it sounds it's as if the threat. "Wall Street Journal believes that you put forward tactical warheads to the territory of NATO allies, as recently in the spring. Is this true?
Vladimir Putin: Larry, listen to me. I want you to know, and knew the whole American people. Anyway, that part of it that will listen our program. It is not we push the rocket into your territory, and you plan to put missiles near our area, near our borders. We are told what we do, that is, you do to protect yourself, say, the Iranian nuclear threat. But that threat does not exist yet. And if the system antiraket radar and will be posted near our borders, even in 2015, they will work against our nuclear capability. And that of course we are concerned. AND we must be some kind of retaliatory measures to take. We are talking about the response, rather than on the first steps.
And in Lisbon, President Medvedev has made specific proposals that are in that part of the responsibility for security in Europe, took over NATO, and the responsibility - general liability - would assume Russia. Moreover, we could agree with NATO and, therefore, read with the United States to exchange information about the overall management of these systems. Military experts about all can agree that it be free will. But if we are to speak bluntly: "We do not want to be with your interests, we will do what we want "- and we will treat this as a threat, we will have to somehow deal with it. I want to be an American the public heard about it.
MK: finally heard this millions of Americans out of the mouth of the influential Russian politician in plain text that It is they who are nominated to us, not we to them!
L. King: What is your assessment of President Obama?
Vladimir Putin: This assessment should give voters should give the people who vote for him, all American citizens.
But if the part to give an expert assessment, it should generally say that, of course, President Obama faced very serious challenges, as they say now, especially in economy and social sphere. I can not judge about right or wrong he did when held in the parliament Health Act, but I have no doubt that in this case - is very sensitive Americans for the event - Obama did his best to respond to the aspirations of the American people, who raised them, and formulated as a pre-election platform. He promised it - and did.
With regard to international activities, we thank him for what he softened the rhetoric of Russian-American relations, but in practical terms, pushed back the implementation of plans for a third GMD missile defense system in Europe. This has created for us an opportunity for dialogue, we won some time to try to implement the same plan that was proposed by President Medvedev in Lisbon.
L. King: 10 Russian agents were arrested earlier this year in the U.S., then shipped back to Russia. You met with them after deportation. What are your impressions from meeting with them? What did they tell you?
Vladimir Putin: You know, we, conditionally speaking, "manufacturing" Problems with a little bit and talked, but, of course, the conversation was very versatile.
What can I say - these are people who certainly deserve respect. I have already said and I repeat once again: their activity, they did not inflict any damage to U.S. interests. As you know they belong to a particular service - a service illegal exploration, it has its own problems and these problems tend to become relevant in times of crisis, say, during a break in diplomatic relations.
Thankfully, this state of affairs between Russia and the United States today is not and hopefully never will not.
L. King: That is, they are not spying on your instructions?
Vladimir Putin: They have their own problems. Once again I want to repeat, this is an illegal intelligence, main purpose is to actively work in times of crisis, and the severance of diplomatic relations, when other means of intelligence are ineffective or simply impossible. So these people, I want to repeat, did not inflict any damage to U.S. interests. But the fact that any country, including United States intelligence activities are - I think no one no doubt.
And by the way, the methods of our intelligence agencies still compare favorably from the methods used by special services of the United States. Thank God, neither these men nor other members of our intelligence and other special services are not seen in the organization of secret prisons, abducting people and using them to torture.
MK: In the last paragraph of comments too!
L. King: The last time we talked about the fact that your country has fought in Afghanistan, which some call the "Vietnam of the Soviet Union." Do you think that the United States will achieve great results in Afghanistan?
Vladimir Putin: Firstly, I think it's still incorrect comparison with Afghanistan. Our troops out of Afghanistan in an organized, calm, and after our troops regime, which was supported by the Soviet Union, lasted three years. Calmly and rhythmically, and was destroyed by the Taliban only after, in fact, with the collapse of the Soviet Union lost all support from the former Soviet Union.
I believe that the Soviet Union there have been many mistakes, and most important mistake was the fact that there were Soviet troops. It was impossible to to do so. This is an obvious fact.
As for the presence today of the U.S. military and military international coalition in Afghanistan - all the same situation change seriously. Just as one can not compare our presence in Afghanistan with Vietnam, just can not compare U.S. and international presence in Afghanistan today with the Russian presence in the 80's.
You know, I think that the international coalition in Afghanistan today does important and positive mission. We can not and will not be there militarily, but we are assisting and American partners, and other partners International coalition in Afghanistan in various ways and means. We have agreed to provide transit and do it, including not only through the air, but on the ground.
We convey important specific information, including extracted with the help of our special services, which you recently recalled. This can be attributed to the unconditional positive in our joint work. There were cases when our helicopter took out American and Dutch troops under enemy fire. There are other ways to support international efforts in Afghanistan. For example, helping the current government and the armed forces in Afghanistan. This is a complex, large complex teamwork. We expect that these efforts will yield positive results.
MK: write here a lot of things can be. The main achievement of this interview is what Putin did not give the slightest about Larry's catch on inaccuracy or errors. He did not give any reason the American "free media" to publish the next day, "dirty" article. Personally the next day climb for some Media sites and found nothing serious. L. King: Let's talk about former President George Bush, his memoir, "The decisive moments." There he remembers how you sometimes charming, sometimes as very serious, cold-hearted person. He said that when he met you the first time and looked in your eyes, I saw your soul. What were your relations with the former president?
Vladimir Putin: Warm relations were good, kind human relations. He was at my house. I was at his home, including on his ranch. We have different viewpoints on many issues, but one thing I can definitely say: George Bush Jr. - a very decent person and a nice partner. And the family has a very good one. I got a lot of fun when he was in his father's house.
L. King: So you like it, generally?
Vladimir Putin: In human, yes, but, I repeat, we still had different approaches to the same problems.
L. King: When you read his book, if you read?
Vladimir Putin: I know some excerpts. Do not agree with the fact that there written, I think it something rusty. If we meet, I reminded him.
MK: "it is something rusty. If we meet, I reminded him." This is something of a series "Listen, Larry, his essay" How I Spent My Summer "I'm not going to read, personally know what it was and how, and even as his" KGB "memory, remember that Bush himself you can recall something ".
MK: "it is something rusty. If we meet, I reminded him." This is something of a series "Listen, Larry, his essay" How I Spent My Summer "I'm not going to read, personally know what it was and how, and even as his" KGB "memory, remember that Bush himself you can recall something ".
L. King: I know that you are working hard to improve your English. You spoke in English at the International Olympic Committee meeting. You had an interview with Matthew Chance on "CNN En" two years ago - and also spoke in English. Are you ready to to address the public in English?
Vladimir Putin: My English is very bad. And in a conversation with you better be precise and avoid any mistakes. We now my teacher is learning different songs in English, trying to sing. This is a game character, but it did not work, a return to the language as to the form of rest, I suppose. But, of course, if we are to meet with you when you come to Moscow, I will try to talk to you in English. Well, of course, I understand a lot. This gives me an opportunity, at least, without an interpreter to communicate with colleagues in polubytovoy or poludelovoy environment.
L. King: well. On this week, FIFA will announce which country will be the FIFA World Cup 2018. FIFA - its different names, this organization, but no matter how called, think you have the chance to host the championship?
Vladimir Putin: I think those odds are, and I assume that our competitors are focused on what they already everything is ready for the World Cup. So why spend the World Cup, where, and so has everything? The philosophy of FIFA is to expand the global football, soccer to increase space. And in Eastern Europe has never held the world championships, so we - the natural contender.
But you know, the problem is this. The problem lies in the fact that in recent times in the course of this competition the members of FIFA, in my opinion, totally undeserved soaked with mud and try to compromise. Meanwhile, an organization that not only involved in the organization of football matches, it performs an essential for today's world social function - not only promotes a healthy lifestyle, distracting us from drugs and drinking a lot of people, particularly the youth, but also builds relationships between people, between nations and between nations. This is the most important function.
We very much hope that the members of FIFA take a decision in favor of Russia.
L. King: Who does that? Vladimir Putin: In competition, many are trying to do it. We know that a lot of information appeared on the "BBC", but one charge, and the proof of another, and it seems to me that this is simply incorrect methods of competition for the right to host the World Cup.
MK: could still diplomatically declared that England had played dirty? That She went to many of the steps with only one purpose-to win this "contest"
L. King: you go to Zurich in order to personally perform there?
Vladimir Putin: You know, I certainly thought about it. But I think that in today's environment, where members of FIFA have experienced these attacks and attempts at compromise, to enable these people to make an objective decision, without any outside pressure.
I know, doing sports all my life and I love football, but I think I'd better not appear there until the vote, that it does not look like some element of pressure on decision-making.
L. King: We in America widely discussed topic of military service of gays and lesbians. What is the policy against gays and lesbians in your armed forces?
Vladimir Putin: you know - I once tried to answer questions of this kind - here in Russia, as well as in Europe as a whole, rather acute problem of demography. We are making serious efforts to reverse this situation and we succeed to do so. We have, perhaps, the pace of the best indicators in Europe - The pace of change. We have for the first time in 10-15 years a steady trend to increase fertility, and this year we have even been some increase in population country.
A same-sex marriage, as you know, do not produce offspring. Therefore, we are quite tolerant of sexual minorities, but still believe that the state should support the processes associated with childbirth, and maternity, to childhood, to care about health.
L. King: But gays are allowed to actively serve in the armed forces, and openly declare that they are gay?
Vladimir Putin: There is no ban. In the Soviet Union was a criminal offense, - So called - for sodomy, but in the current legislation so there is no criminal liability, there are no prohibitions do not exist.
L. King: You recently took part in the summit in St. Petersburg to save tigers. You have also attracted the participation of Leonardo DiCaprio. Why are you so interested a tiger?
Vladimir Putin: But not just a tiger. I just love nature. And there are people on the planet, thank God a lot. I'm just one of them.
As for tigers then, interest in them has arisen, too, in connection with the United States, oddly enough - somehow I just saw a report on television about how to operate American and Russian specialists in the Far East to protect the tigers. Frankly, became somehow ashamed to, because U.S. partners just helped our team in solving these problems. I went there, we have developed an entire program related to the protection of tigers in the Far East.
Incidentally, in general, all that is done in the Soviet Union and Russia, has shown positive results. We have a few decades ago there were only 20-30 individuals, and today more than 500. This is still the result of purposeful work. But we do not just tigers. We are doing and other endangered species, and I very much hope that in matters of this kind will connect more and more people. After all, many people would want to do something, but few have such opportunities, but I have. I feel obliged to do so.
L. King: Thus, the personal issues in the remaining time, Mr. Prime Minister. Again, I hope that I will have the opportunity to visit You in Moscow. You are protecting the safety of their personal lives. Many do not even know that you have two daughters. Why You are protecting your family?
Vladimir Putin: You know, unfortunately, we have many problems related to terrorism, and we just have to think about the safety of family members, including, above all, children daughters. They live normal, ordinary life, studying at university. They are happy, they have friends - all in order. But pull them to the public social stage I do not think it necessary, and they do not want.
L. King: your wife like to be the "first lady"?
MK: I hope everyone understood what was catch this issue,
Vladimir Putin: It is not the "first lady". "First Lady" at us - the President's wife.
MK: I personally apologize to the journalists CNN, BBC, FoxNews, Times, etc. That had to throw in the trash the headline "Putin said his wife" the First Lady, and myself, therefore, the President, "Putin does not respect Medvedev and his wife, "etc. If it had not worked in the KGB, may not be able to so quickly and dramatically respond to such a carefully prepared question
Vladimir Putin: It is not the "first lady". "First Lady" at us - the President's wife.
MK: I personally apologize to the journalists CNN, BBC, FoxNews, Times, etc. That had to throw in the trash the headline "Putin said his wife" the First Lady, and myself, therefore, the President, "Putin does not respect Medvedev and his wife, "etc. If it had not worked in the KGB, may not be able to so quickly and dramatically respond to such a carefully prepared question
L. King: That is, Do it?
Vladimir Putin: In principle, you know, she's not a big fan of public activities. It is worthy, I think, carried his burden, and certainly cope with these duties.
L. King: you plan to visit the United States of America in the near future?
Vladimir Putin: yet in my plans for this no. The question is in the specifics, the filling of trips of this kind. I'm doing now, especially the economy. And if you have any questions this kind need be, I will gladly come to meet with colleagues, discuss-some current problems and prospects of our interaction.
L. King: you keep in touch with Mr. Gorbachev?
Vladimir Putin: Very rarely, but I met him. He sometimes calls me on the phone. We are in contact.
L. King: Mr Prime Minister, in respect of the overall situation in the whole world you optimistic or pessimistic?
Vladimir Putin: problems has become more than they were until today. But I am still an optimist, and I think we can agree on even the most acute and intractable as it seems today, issues. And by combining these efforts, we will provide ongoing development of our countries can solve major problems related to security and development.
L. King: Mr Prime Minister, I thank you heartily. I hope I'll see you soon on Russia land.
Vladimir Putin: Larry! I invite you, waiting for you in Moscow. You were never in Moscow. I am confident that you will enjoy.
L. King: again I thank you, Vladimir Putin, Russian Prime Minister. Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: And you can ask one question? I do not know why, but the king leaves. In the American media a lot of talented, interesting people. But still the king alone. I'm not asking why he was leaving. Still, how do you think of when we will be able to cry "Long live the king!"? When will another person who has the same popularity in the world, how are you?
MK: In my opinion According to such a question can be attributed to Putin's desire to show Larry and others that do not climb with your questions about 2012. Mole "see how you do not want to hear such questions. This is not my thing, I do not shove your nose. Be good, do well "
L. King: Thank you. I have no answer to this question.
L. King: Thank you. I have no answer to this question.
Vladimir Putin: Thank you very much.
L. King: I'll meet you next year.
Vladimir Putin: bye.
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